The conversation has been heavily anticipated. The opportunity to hear and compare the remarkable testimonies of two unique whistleblowers—Corey Goode and Emery Smith—may have been one of the major opportunities many of us have desired. Now it's here.
This was said to be the first
conversation of its kind between Corey and Emery and it was
extremely intriguing to see how the intel of these two whistleblowers correlated. As it turns out, the testimonies of these two veterans intersect on a number of levels and share many of the same details despite the fact that their service within classified projects is said to have occurred at different times and locations.
Many have been waiting for this
conversation in order to see whether or not the stories of these two men paint a contiguous picture of classified operations on, within, and beyond our planet. We could simply answer yes. However, the conversation clearly speaks for itself.
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Cosmic Disclosure - Cosmic Summit - Season 11, Episode 1
David Wilcock: Welcome to another episode of “Cosmic Disclosure”. I'm your host, David Wilcock. And we have a special treat for you: two high-level insiders who have never before spoken in any public or really private forum in the way that we're going to right now.
We have Corey Goode and Emery Smith.
Emery, welcome to the show.
Emery Smith: Hey, Dave, thanks for having me again. Very exciting day.
David: And Corey, thanks for being here.
Corey Goode: Thank you.
David: So we decided to start out this first episode by trying to find one of the areas where there might be common ground between the things that you've experienced, Emery, and the things that Corey's experienced. And so this gets into the topic of underground bases.
So just to start this off, I'm going to ask you some simple questions, and then we'll open it up from there.
Are you aware of either the military or the government, or whatever you want to call it, having underground facilities?
And if so, how extensive are they? How many of them are there? And what do you know about those facilities?
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Emery: I'm aware of, in just the U.S. alone, about 300 of these facilities.
Now, when you say government, I want to, like, talk about that, because it's not always the government that owns these facilities.
They GUARD these facilities – the military does – but they don't always . . . are in control of the facilities, because they are owned by larger corporations and unknown organizations.
Corey: That have different oversight.
Emery: Exactly.
Corey: Right.
Emery: Right.
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David: So when you say there's about 300 of these facilities that you're aware of . . .
Emery: Just in North America.
David: . . . what would be an average benchmark of what you are thinking that that means? What are those facilities? Of the 300, what would they be like?
How big are they? How many people do they hold?
Emery: Right, there's many different facilities with many different types of populations in them. And they all have a different agenda.
And there are some that are larger, like the ones in New Mexico, Nevada and Colorado, that actually house entire cities, and you never even have to go to the surface.
They also have full running hospitals and whatnot for this elite group.
As far as the laboratories and all the testing going on there with nuclear and other types of energies – because it's not all just medical, of course . . .
David: Right.
Emery: . . . but other things going down there, as Corey can also relate to of working on different types of devices, such as different types of vehicles, number one, space vehicles; also, the medical stuff I talked to you about in the last episodes, with all the storing of cloned bodies and whatnot.
So there are a lot of these facilities that house many different types of projects.
And then there are some that are only for specific types of projects, because it's so compartmentalized, they'll make a whole underground base just for one project.
David: Wow!
Emery: And they'll keep that with the population usually under about 200 people so they can control them.
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The topic of these DUMBs was also addressed in past episodes of the Wisdom Teachings series on Gaia. According to David Wilcock, these bases have a certain type of ocular opening for some of their ventilation shafts. These enormous tubes have air rushing in and out of them at different point, and when the ocular valve at the end of some of these tunnels are closed to a certain point, they can emit a loud booming noises. This is similar to the way a brass musical instrument operates.
David Wilcock proposed the idea that these noises were possibly being made on purpose in order to raise suspicions among the population that the Earth was undergoing the End Times. This was said to be one of the ways the Cabal intended to promote fear.
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Corey: So Emery, I know you probably can't tell us the names of the bases that you went to or where they were located, maybe some, but can you tell us the number and how they were different, as well as what it was like going into the bases?
Emery: Yeah, sure. Basically, there's around 300 of these bases in the United States that I'm aware of.
Some of the ones I've been to are in El Paso, Texas, under UTEP.
Of course, everyone knows about the one I've been in in Los Alamos and Kirtland Air Force Base.Another one would be in Charlottesville, Virginia. There's another one in Denver. Of course, Dulce [New Mexico] you know about. And there's one in White Sands [New Mexico] – under White Sands National Monument.
Also [there's one] in Creststone [Colorado], underneath the sand dunes, which they're trying to now expand that.
David: What about in Canada? Are you familiar with any up there?
Emery: In British Columbia and also near Whidbey Island, off of Washington there.
Corey: When you approach these bases, or these underground facilities, the entrance to them, are they nondescript? Or are they something that . . .
Emery: Yeah, 95% of them are nondescript but also guarded or usually near a base or on a base for the entry points.
Now, there are a few that are out there that actually are not guarded, but they're in such remote desolate areas that . . . I mean, they're guarded, but they're not . . . it's not . . .
Corey: With technology.
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Emery: It's not on a base. Right, with technology and satellites.
Corey: They're monitored.
Emery: And completely monitored, exactly.
So I think most of them, to answer your question, would be: you'd have to enter a really secured lab or a really secured corporation or a really secured military installation to access the underground.
Corey: So could you take us through what would be typical if you were to go through?
Emery: Right, absolutely. Depending on where your entry point is and depending on the type of base it is, some of the most common ones, like the one I was stationed at with Kirtland Air Force Base, was basically a fire tower that you would never even think would be the access point.
David: Mm-mm.
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Emery: And a fire tower, meaning it's a concrete base, not made out of metal. So I want you to think of a small 30' x 30' building, concrete, that goes up about six floors – straight up – but it's there as a fire observation point, which, of course, never is utilized for that.
And these areas, too, they don't have, like, parking lots in front of them or anything like that. You usually have to walk through many different posts.
But since this was already on the base, inside another base that's there . . . so you're going through two different types of security.
So first you have to get on the military base, number one. And then once you do that, there's another even more secure base on there with the fences and their own security teams. They're not military.
And these are private corporations that I spoke of that are running these things.
So one of the things I was speaking to Dave about one time was my dorm was so close to there I would actually ride my bicycle to this place after work. And I was allowed to put my bicycle near the area and then walk over. And this is just an area that people that on base worked there could walk to it.
So there's many different places to go in, but for us, since it's more convenient since we live on the base, for many scientists.
David: What would happen if somebody started to notice an unusual number of people going into a fire tower like if you were on the base and it wasn't your job?
Emery: Yeah.
David: What would happen then?
Emery: Well, that whole place is monitored, number one, and you're already on a base. And the base already knows there's something . . . You know, THEY already know there's something there.
They don't know the extent of it, though. The military doesn't always know the extent of how large these underground bases are, which you [Corey] could probably attest to.
Corey: Do they typically bring you through and scan your body? Do all these . . . I mean, what other types of security measures do they take?
Emery: Sure. So once you get there, like I did, there was actually a bike rack there that I'd put my bike up. And I'd walk right over, and there's just two doors.
You walk in, and just like you would walk into a hospital to check in somewhere, they take your driver's license and all that stuff.
So there's two security guards there, and you walk in.
And they either recognize you, or they don't recognize you. And you do have three different types of security things you have to do before you go in.
You have a card, number one, and it's very generic. It's nothing special. It doesn't have any . . .
Corey: Just a strip?
Emery: . . . holograms or anything in it. Right, it's just a strip . . . a magnetic strip, like you see on a credit card. So it's nothing special at all.
Then you have, of course, your palm print identification and your iris eye scan, like the old stuff you see in the movies – very similar to that.
So once you go through that and get through all that, then you take the elevator down.
Once you get to the bottom . . .
Corey: Where they weigh you while you're on the elevator going down.
Emery: That's right. The elevator is not a regular elevator. It looks like a regular elevator, but the elevator is actually scanning you to see if you have any type of, let's say, plutonium on you or anything that could be a threat.
So this elevator's doing a body scan on you as you're going down.
David: Wow!
Emery: Yeah. So you cannot smuggle something in, in your orifices. You could not come in there with a bomb or a grenade or a handgun or anything like that.
David: Is it also like an X-ray, MRI kind of thing, where it would . . .
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Emery: Yes.
David: Okay, I thought so.
Emery: It's a little different like that. It's not radioactive causing, where . . . of course, they wouldn't do that to you.
David: Right.
Emery: We do wear these special, of course, X-ray badges the whole time we're in there, because it monitors how much radiation you have.
Corey: You're exposed to.
Emery: Right. And it's not always just from the X-rays. It could be other projects in there that are using stuff that it is emanating at a safe level. But they have to monitor you the whole time.
Corey: Do they keep a running tally of any exposure you had to radiation . . .
Emery: Absolutely.
Corey: . . . accumulation?
Emery: Everyone's monitored for gas and radiation and specific light wavelengths, actually, that could cause damage to the body.
So those are the three things they are monitoring all the time.
David: Okay, so, Corey, since you've also had experience with underground bases, at this point, is there anything funny that jumps out at you – anything that he said that was familiar or unfamiliar?
Corey: Oh, yeah, absolutely familiar. And like he said, there's different types of bases.
Some of the bases are . . . you cannot access them from the ground whatsoever. You have to go through the tram system, the secret tram system underground.
Emery: Yeah.
Corey: And the only entrance and exit is through that tram system.
David: Right.
Corey: And often, they will be very deep, as I've said before. At a certain depth, you're no longer considered in United States territory.
David: Um.
Corey: And so you then have free rein.
Emery: Absolutely, yeah.
David: Have you seen . . .
Emery: And I was getting to that, because once you get down there, you have to take the tram.
And many of them have different types of maglev and lavatube devices to get you there.
Corey: I don't think we've had someone that could give a good description of the tram. I know they have short ones for people that you sit in and you're facing each other.
Emery: Right.
Corey: And then they have the larger ones. Can you give a description?
Emery: Yeah, sure. I spoke about this in the past. And one of the ones is kind of like a, as Dave and I call it, like a gondola.
So when you get down there, there's a chair you sit in, and it goes down a very, very long hallway.
And it just keeps going around and around and around. It's very slow, as fast as . . . a little bit faster than you'd see at the airport when you stand on those . . . the standing conveyor belts.
Corey: Right.
Emery: So just a little bit faster than that. And you're sitting down, or you can stand up. You don't have to sit down.
And that takes you to the actual main entrance of the underground base, and it could be as long as a quarter mile.
Now, they also have the actual tube system, which is a pod, and it holds up to four people.
And it's in the shape of a cylinder egg.
And you get in that one, and it has really nice chairs in it, actually, kind of like the reclining ones you would see on a dentist table, but really padded.
And you can actually wear a seat belt in these things, but you don't need to. You don't even know you're going because it's so fluid, and it gets up to such a high speed.
And I don't know how fast that is, but I heard some of these can go over 500 miles per hour.
Corey: Yeah, I was hearing over 700.
Emery: Yeah. So once you get there, whether you're taking the chair, the gondola, or you're taking these maglev tubes – the egg thing – once you get there, then you have to still go through another security checkpoint.
Corey: Because you could be in another country for all you know.
Emery: Right. Or another planet.
Corey: Right. Exactly. I was actually talking about that recently, about how . . . Recently, when I was brought up to the Lunar Operation Command, I was brought into a room for a briefing, and there was a window.
And I looked out the window, and I saw Mars.
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Emery: Ha, ha. Yes.
Corey: And I was told that a lot of times, people will take these trams. And much like I took a tram, and it ended up on another planet . . .
Emery: Yes.
Corey: . . . back when I was much younger, and you can't really tell.
Emery: Right.
Corey: You know.
Emery: You don't . . .
Corey: You can't really tell.
Emery: It's not like a . . . You don't go into some hyperjump, or you're even aware of it. It's that fluid when you do these kinds of portal jumps, I'll say. It's in seconds.
Corey: And they play games with the people when you get there. You'll see windows that make it look like you're on Earth somewhere or on Mars.
Emery: Right. Yeah, we talked about this. Absolutely.
Corey: And they were doing that on the Moon when I was in there, and they said, “Ah!”, and they flipped it over to a moonscape when they saw me staring at Mars kind of confused.
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David: Let me also just say for the record that Bob Dean, Pete Peterson, Jacob and Henry Deacon have all reported on this phenomenon of sub-shuttle systems where you get transported somewhere else, and you don't even realize it.
You're just riding in the thing, and you go somewhere else.
So this is a consistent element of insider testimony that I've heard.
Corey: Yeah, they could take a scientist, put him in one of the underground trams. They could end up at another facility, and it could be on the Moon.
David: Right.
Corey: And they could . . . And the facilities on the Moon . . . it looks just like Earth facilities.
David: Right.
Corey: And then walk them around. Let them see out the window – see the Grand Canyon or something – and the people totally believe that they're at a location on Earth.
Emery: It also helps with the psyche, if you're living underground for a very long time, to have these views and . . .
Corey: Yeah, trees and plants.
Emery: . . . to have the organic state material, with gardens inside these things.
Corey: Full spectrum lighting.
Emery: Full-spectrum lighting, and the things that we normally have here outside they try to replicate inside. And it seems to lower the stress levels of the scientists and the technicians that are working there.
David: Yeah, let's go with that, because one of the things that Pete Peterson reported to me was this idea that you might have a very large dome underground in which there is a city, with buildings and roads and trees.
Emery: Right.
David: And it really . . . And they even have the dome lit so it looks like the sky.
Emery: Yeah, the dome is really cool.
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Corey: And they do starlight. They do stars at night.
Emery: They do. And you have your own 24-hour, like you said – the day and night situations. They can make it look like a hurricane's coming, too, with clouds and all sorts of amazing sci-fi effects that are very realistic, as far as the lighting goes, and the way it makes you feel like you're looking into infinity.
Corey: I'm curious. Were any of these bases that you went to . . . were they in national parks?
Emery: Yes. Yeah.
Corey: Interesting. We've heard tale, and you and I have seen doors that will just open up out of the side of a mountain.
Emery: Right.
Corey: And they can completely . . . you could never tell that there is anything there. You could go there with a . . . do sonic tests. You would never know that there's a door there.
Emery: You can't even find it with a metal detector.
Corey: Right.
Emery: And this is like a giant rock, like you just said, will open up. And it's completely sealed and pressurized, out of the side of a mountain.
And we were talking about this earlier, Corey. Even in the desert, . . . Like, I always remember watching the desert open up, like you said, which you can explain.
Corey: Right. Like a zipper.
Emery: Like a zipper.
Corey: The ground.
Emery: And then the sand starts falling in. And I'm always like, man, who's cleaning up all that sand?
Corey: Right.
Emery: But they have a special thing that . . .
Corey: Yeah, it drains sort of those . . .
Emery: Just collects it right out and shoots it back out over the . . . once the door shuts, shoots it back on top of that.
Another type of base that I don't get into too much, you know, up in the North Pole in the polar ice caps – there's bases in polar ice caps . . .
Corey: Mh-hm.
Emery: And they are magnificently beautiful, number one. And they somehow have their own atmosphere in there, . . .
Corey: Yeah.
Emery: . . . with perfect running water and their own, I'll say, their own electricity they make using the Earth, because they're already very, very deep.
Corey: Is that like geothermal?
Emery: Yes.
Corey: Right.
Emery: Yep.
Corey: Are these . . . And some of them also use the thorium-type reactors.
Emery: THORIUM – absolutely.
Corey: Yeah, so . . .
David: I've heard a lot about thorium.
Emery: That's a big one. Thorium's amazing, yeah.
David: It's basically a non-radioactive fusion system.
Emery: Right.
Corey: Well, what's interesting is that in a lot of my presentations I've been showing footage from Project Iceworm.
It was a project by the Army Corps of Engineers in I think it was the late '50s, early '60s, in Greenland. They went in, and they set up one of these bases.
And basically, the same type of building was done down in Antarctica as well. And planes would come and land and provide them the supplies.
But this is also how they've built a lot of off-world bases . . .
Emery: Right.
Corey: . . . this same method. But Project Iceworm was very interesting because later on, the United States tried to smuggle some nuclear weapons there, and the plane crashed.
And everyone found out about this huge base that was secretly built.
David: Just so you guys are aware of this, one of the things that Pete Peterson told me was that the “World Book Encyclopedia” in 1953, I think was the year, that the military-industrial complex sent people all over libraries to rip out this one page because it had something in there talking about how thorium could be a reaction that would produce almost no radiation.
And he said that if we started to use this, that we would have this incredible breakthrough in technology.
So what do you guys know about thorium as it relates to our discussion?
Corey: Well, I know that in the programs, the craft, research vessel, I was assigned to, originally it was nuclear. And then they replaced it with thorium based [power].
And then they replaced it with some sort of an electromagnetic engine that had these long tubes that they would put something in that they called “minnow baskets” that would spin.
And if you move it up and down, you get a little bit of play in the electromagnetics.
Emery: Right.
Corey: And I think it's some sort of electromagnetic friction that's going around. And these leads are picking up the energy and shooting it wirelessly through the tubes, which then go directly to these huge capacitors.
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Emery: Right. Yeah, a lot of capacitors are used in these bases to hold the energy.
I'm not an expert at thorium, but I was recently on a project where a private organization – a private corporation – hired me to . . . They sent out people all over the United States – a scientific team – to find the LARGEST deposit of thorium here in the United States.
And I know exactly where that's at. And that is also in New Mexico. I'm not going to tell you the city it's located near, but I'll tell you it's in New Mexico.
And there's an unlimited amount of thorium there that could power all the planets, and all the bases, and, of course, us right here indefinitely – INDEFINITELY - I mean with the amount of energy we already currently use.
David: So why do you think, Emery, there would be a base in a national park? What would be the advantage to that?
Emery: Oh, the advantage of that is, number one, it's completely monitored all the time. You always have park rangers around.
So it's like you have your own little civilian operatives out there.
And, of course, they're just cluttered with satellites and stuff that are watching them – watching the area, I mean.
So these areas also sometimes have a great usage to them because they're near maybe an underground thermal or something.
Corey: Right.
Emery: And they're harvesting this energy. Or maybe it has a huge crystalline formation under some of these parks and stuff.
So the parks, even in early days, were actually picked out to hide military bases.
Corey: Yeah, what's interesting is Clifford Mahooty, when we had him here talking, said that reservations – Indian reservations – and these bases and national parks have the same classification with the government.
Emery: Yes. And that's what I'm saying, because it's limited traffic, or it's controlled traffic.
Even on the reservations, like, . . . You're not even allowed to go on a reservation, you understand, unless you have special passes and whatnot with the chiefs.
And what happens is that's the perfect ideal place that's never going to have a lot of traffic or a lot of investigation, because we're using an area that we already gave to the American Indians.
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Corey: Right. It was interesting. I read a report that a lot of the groups of park rangers were actually intelligence.
They were former military and intelligence, because in a lot of these national parks where people “go missing”, they end up finding the missing people.
And sometimes they had been worked on by non-terrestrials, and they needed to keep it quiet, . . .
Emery: Sure.
Corey: . . . so they had the park rangers smooth everything over.
Emery: Yeah, I can attest and agree to that 100%, that they're using a show of force, or let's just say a security detail, that is not what you would think of someone just graduating college and taking up a job.
These people are 20-year-plus veterans either in the projects or in the military, as you said. And they're very overqualified, but they get paid really well.
David: So one thing I'd like to follow up on, Emery, is you mentioned bases under the ice.
Emery: Yeah.
David: And I would assume this also would include bases in the ocean.
Emery: Yes.
David: There's this very strange movie that came out 2009 called “G.I. Joe”, which is military, but all the stuff that we're talking about is in that movie all over the place.
What do you feel about the movie “G.I. Joe”? And did you have any . . .Emery: I do recall seeing that. I don't remember it too well, but I do recall seeing it and connecting the dots, we'll say.
And I think there was a lot to it at the time. I remember watching it and saying, “Wow! Here they are just coming blatantly out.”
David: Because it's so . . .
Emery: . . . and showing . . .
David: They're doing these beautiful visuals in the movie with computer animation.
Corey: Oh, yeah, well, especially the second one when they did the Rods from God attacks . . .
David: Oh, that was crazy.
Corey: . . . on the Earth when that's exactly what we're looking at in the North Korea thing.
Emery: Right. Right. Interesting. I didn't see the second one.
David: They're telephone-pole-sized pieces of tungsten that you can drop onto the Earth, and just gravity causes a very, very severe explosion that can devastate a huge amount of space.
Emery: Oh, yes. Yeah.
David: And he had talked about that. And I only watched the second “G.I. Joe” film recently, and I couldn't believe that it was in there.
Emery: Wow! Yeah, that's pretty amazing for them to blatantly come out and expose that classified information, but we do start to see that now all the time with the movies are giving tidbits.
There's the Alliance and other white hats that get to throw a couple of messages in there for those who are paying attention . . .
David: Right.
Emery: . . . and talk about it. So I think it's a great thing.
David: So another thing I'd want to bring up now is: when I spoke to Bob Dean, retired Major Bob Dean, he actually told me a lot more than he ever said publicly with Project Camelot or anyone else about what he really had been involved in.
It's very similar to what Corey's done.
And one of the things he talked about was an island in the South Pacific that looks like an island if you fly over it, but if you get really close, half of the island is some kind of hologram, and it's camouflaged.
And you can go through that hologram, and then you find out there's a whole base there . . .
Emery: Yeah.
David: . . . that you can't see from the sky. Are you familiar with anything like that?
Emery: There's lots of that.
Corey: Yeah, lots of that technology – the masking technology with holograms.
Emery: Lots of it.
Corey: They've even developed holograms to a point to where they have mass.
Emery: Right.
Corey: Or they call them “hard light”, to where they can . . .
Emery: You can cast a shadow.
Corey: Yeah, you can do a hologram, and you can walk up and “tink, tink, tink,” like a piece of glass.
Or even they can make it even thicker in depth.
David: Wow!
Emery: Yeah, I totally can attest to that as well, and I was part of . . . not part of that, but there were compartmentalized projects near me during that that were working on satellites that could do that, or they were putting that technology in satellites in the early '90s, and I think it was probably before that.
Corey: Yeah. What's crazy is they'll have a hard light panel. They remove the source of the power or electricity, and it stays.
Emery: Right.
Corey: I mean, it's incredible.
Emery: Yeah, they're using all sorts of cool technology. That's why I always say, you know, if I did see something, a craft or whatnot, an ET, it's hard for me to say, “Oh, that's real. or it's not real”, unless I actually was right in front of it and analyzing it, because they can make you really believe you saw a plane crash into a building.
Corey: Mm-hm.
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Emery: They can make you really believe that's really something there. And you can get up to it, like Corey said, and it's palpable.
David: Really?
Emery: It is actually palpable. And the ones I've seen were not as palpable as yours were. You're like . . . Mine was just for a little bit, and then you could just easily go through it.
Corey: Right.
Emery: But that's just an amazing technology to begin with, because then you can basically make any type of threat – fake threat – or use it for horrible situations where you're trying to . . .
Corey: They're using it for building.
Emery: Yeah.
David: Would they create areas where, like, NOAA [National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration] would have a no-fly zone? So, like, you couldn't fly a passenger plane or an airliner over these areas?
Emery: Oh, that's right now. Right now they have it everywhere. There are certain places you can't . . . no-fly zones.
And that's a great way to also investigate when you're trying to find places.
David: Ha, ha.
Emery: And you're like, “Well, why is it way over here? This is a no-fly zone.”
David: But, like, if you have a little Cessna, what would happen if you tried to go towards one of these zones, let's say.
Emery: You immediately would be escorted out by some F-16s . . .
Corey: Yes.
Emery: . . . or F-15s or whatnot.
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Of course, a more simple solution for sustaining a continuous air supply would be to ensure a constant source of water and full-spectrum light, and then to plant a variety of vegetation in the area you plan to oxygenate.
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David: Okay, it seems pretty strange that they could have this hard-light technology or a hologram cloaking something.
Somebody at some point is going to find it. Somebody's going to be sailing in a little skiff . . .
Emery: They have.
David: . . . on the ocean or something. So what would happen in those situations?
Emery: They have, and they were terminated.
David: Really?
Emery: Missing at sea. Or even in military operations, sometimes THEY accidentally stumble.
Corey: Training operation.
Emery: Right, and they're not supposed to be there, but they are. And they are usually terminated.
Corey: “Dead in a training operation” or something.
Emery: Yeah, they were, like you just said, . . . People that work at these bases, too, their families don't know that they're going to a base to work for three months.
They're just saying, “I can't contact you for three months because I'm going on a mission.”
So when they do die, and they tell the family, “Oh, they died in action or on a training mission”, it's completely false. It's completely fake.
And they'll never know, because the best people to hire are military people that are active duty, because they're very expendable.
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David: What other methods do they have to protect the base from people showing up so that they don't actually have to kill people? What are some of the other methods?
Because I would hope they don't always do fatalities.
Corey: You know, they'll do things like put out signs stating that there's radiation, that this was a testing zone for nuclear weapons and try to deter you that way.
Emery: Well, they have many things in place to deter you from going there, but sometimes it just happens.
You know, you can't have a sign every 50 feet and when you're 100 nautical miles out with this island and stuff.
But there are boats that are always . . . and aircraft that are always patrolling those areas.
And the satellites that are assigned to these bases, they're always there. And a fleet can't even get in there without them knowing that there's something in the airspace.
David: Wow!
Emery: You could not fly under radar to these places. You WILL be caught. You WILL be found.
David: Do you think there are certain cases where people would be brought into the base and become employees or maybe unwillingly become employees instead of just being shot?
Emery: I'm not aware of that.
Corey: I am, unfortunately.
Emery: Yeah?
Corey: Yeah. There have been, for the biometric testing and stuff, they'll take people.
Emery: Oh, for testing. Right.
Corey: Yeah.
Emery: Yeah, I've seen them get kidnapped.
David: Hm.
Emery: And people were there against their will, but not to be working for someone. I've never seen that. But, absolutely, what Corey just said is unfortunately true.
Corey: Did you ever hear of any security measures to protect against “psychic spying” or remote viewing?
Emery: Absolutely. All the bases have dedicated remote viewers on board.
And don't forget, remote viewers don't have to be on the base.
Corey: Right.
Emery: They could be far away and still protecting the bases.
And you get two good remote viewers – and that's one of my specialties that I actually get paid for - . . . is you have a remote viewer, let's say, that's 90% effective.
And then you get another remote viewer that's, like, 90% effective. And they both come up with the exact same thing.
So you only need a few of those guys on board to check out surveillance.
Now, they do have people that are advanced remote viewers that are using . . .
Corey: Remote influencers.
Emery: Right. Say it again.
Corey: Remote influencers.
Emery: Right, remote influencers that also use consciousness-assisted technology and electronics that they hook up to.
Corey: Have you seen some of the . . .
Emery: Yes.
Corey: There's either a pole or a plate that they put their palms on.
Emery: Two gold plates or . . .
Corey: Well, one is copper, and one looks like it's a stainless looking steel. And it's hooked up to wires. And they'll sit there, and it enhances their ability.
The remote viewers that try to view military bases, they'll begin to see a view of the base, and then all of a sudden, their thoughts are scattered.
And what they were being called in the smart-glass pads, which is an awkward way to label them, but they called them, “Those that Scatter”, because they were scattering the thoughts of anyone coming in.
And they were also sending energetic feedback through the connection and giving people what they called “ethereal headaches”, which for days you have a huge headache. And I'm sure you know what that's . . .
Emery: Oh, yes.
Corey: . . . what those are.
David: All right. Well, that's very amazing stuff, and that's all the time we have in this episode with Emery Smith, Corey Goode and myself. We'll see you next time. Thanks for watching.
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David Wilcock: Welcome to another episode of “Cosmic Disclosure”. I'm your host, David Wilcock. And we have a special treat for you: two high-level insiders who have never before spoken in any public or really private forum in the way that we're going to right now.
We have Corey Goode and Emery Smith.
Emery, welcome to the show.
Emery Smith: Hey, Dave, thanks for having me again. Very exciting day.
David: And Corey, thanks for being here.
Corey Goode: Thank you.
David: So we decided to start out this first episode by trying to find one of the areas where there might be common ground between the things that you've experienced, Emery, and the things that Corey's experienced. And so this gets into the topic of underground bases.
So just to start this off, I'm going to ask you some simple questions, and then we'll open it up from there.
Are you aware of either the military or the government, or whatever you want to call it, having underground facilities?
And if so, how extensive are they? How many of them are there? And what do you know about those facilities?
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Emery: I'm aware of, in just the U.S. alone, about 300 of these facilities.
Now, when you say government, I want to, like, talk about that, because it's not always the government that owns these facilities.
They GUARD these facilities – the military does – but they don't always . . . are in control of the facilities, because they are owned by larger corporations and unknown organizations.
Corey: That have different oversight.
Emery: Exactly.
Corey: Right.
Emery: Right.
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For those of us who live among the surface population, the thought of housing an entire miniaturized civilization may sound like an incredibly difficult task to achieve. However, we might keep in mind that these bases are said to be stocked with futuristic technology which allows occupants to meet the requirements which an entire biosphere and civilization might need in order to sustain itself.
The requirements of clean and consistent air circulation, of a continuous water cycle, and a constantly replenishing regenerative food supply along with water treatment and waste disposal—these are the major aspects of a civilization which must be sustained in order for a civilization to exist.
On the surface, nature has a way of taking care of all of these needs for human beings. However, much of the establishment has largely stifled and stolen most of the resources which nature provides, only to turn around and sell these resources back to the people at a profit. Even still, nature does provide these necessities in abundance.
Beyond vital needs, a civilization needs adequate housing for all of its members. This housing must provide an excess of living space if the civilization is to be able to grow and expand beyond its initial occupancy. After this need has been met, there comes the need for maintenance of personal health. This is where hospitals, dentists, and the various other personal care facilities come in.
Services such as law enforcement and peacekeepers, firefighters, along with a means of governance would provide adequate safety and order for these civilizations. I would imagine that these civilizations are governed by military rule of some kind, as these bases are strategically sensitive locations, which would make it sensible for military to oversee their operations.
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David: So when you say there's about 300 of these facilities that you're aware of . . .
Emery: Just in North America.
David: . . . what would be an average benchmark of what you are thinking that that means? What are those facilities? Of the 300, what would they be like?
How big are they? How many people do they hold?
Emery: Right, there's many different facilities with many different types of populations in them. And they all have a different agenda.
And there are some that are larger, like the ones in New Mexico, Nevada and Colorado, that actually house entire cities, and you never even have to go to the surface.
They also have full running hospitals and whatnot for this elite group.
As far as the laboratories and all the testing going on there with nuclear and other types of energies – because it's not all just medical, of course . . .
David: Right.
Emery: . . . but other things going down there, as Corey can also relate to of working on different types of devices, such as different types of vehicles, number one, space vehicles; also, the medical stuff I talked to you about in the last episodes, with all the storing of cloned bodies and whatnot.
So there are a lot of these facilities that house many different types of projects.
And then there are some that are only for specific types of projects, because it's so compartmentalized, they'll make a whole underground base just for one project.
David: Wow!
Emery: And they'll keep that with the population usually under about 200 people so they can control them.
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The topic of DUMBs has been popular within alternative news for a good while now. Among many theories, these bases have been speculated upon as being the cause of numerous unexplained anomalies within their vicinity. From disappearances of people to strange noises that can be heard from miles away, along with the alleged concealment of secret technologies and lifeforms—the mysteries that have surrounded these bases have peaked the curiosity of numerous researchers.
One mystery was found to exist in Sonora, CA where a particularly strange booming noise has been the cause of much confusion and concern among citizens. Other noise phenomena which sound similar to trumpet-like noises have been reported many times over by citizens not only in North America, but around the world. These noises are said to vary in sound. Some sound like a high-pitched squeal while others sound like a low-tone hum. Others even sound like explosions, but the commonality among these noises is that in each instance, the noises are reported to have no visible origin.
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David Wilcock proposed the idea that these noises were possibly being made on purpose in order to raise suspicions among the population that the Earth was undergoing the End Times. This was said to be one of the ways the Cabal intended to promote fear.
These loud booms or explosion-like noises are those that seem to be most commonly reported by citizens. It is unknown as to what is actually causing them. However, some have reported that many of these underground facilities were being destroyed by the Alliance.
According to sources, various bases are under Cabal control and have been used as hideouts for various criminal factions. In fact, a number of nefarious groups are reported to be under attack in these bases and many of these attacks end with an evacuation of the bases followed by a complete implosion of these facilities.
When many of these bases are destroyed, a specific weapon is used to either explode or implode the area inside, according to sources. If such an implosion/explosion were to occurring, there would likely be a powerful compression wave formed by the destruction. This compression wave exiting from all of the ventilation tubes and access points of the bases may be what many citizens are hearing when they report these booming sounds.
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Corey: So Emery, I know you probably can't tell us the names of the bases that you went to or where they were located, maybe some, but can you tell us the number and how they were different, as well as what it was like going into the bases?
Emery: Yeah, sure. Basically, there's around 300 of these bases in the United States that I'm aware of.
Some of the ones I've been to are in El Paso, Texas, under UTEP.
Of course, everyone knows about the one I've been in in Los Alamos and Kirtland Air Force Base.Another one would be in Charlottesville, Virginia. There's another one in Denver. Of course, Dulce [New Mexico] you know about. And there's one in White Sands [New Mexico] – under White Sands National Monument.
Also [there's one] in Creststone [Colorado], underneath the sand dunes, which they're trying to now expand that.
David: What about in Canada? Are you familiar with any up there?
Emery: In British Columbia and also near Whidbey Island, off of Washington there.
Corey: When you approach these bases, or these underground facilities, the entrance to them, are they nondescript? Or are they something that . . .
Emery: Yeah, 95% of them are nondescript but also guarded or usually near a base or on a base for the entry points.
Now, there are a few that are out there that actually are not guarded, but they're in such remote desolate areas that . . . I mean, they're guarded, but they're not . . . it's not . . .
Corey: With technology.
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There have been several testimonies given by a number of whistleblowers from classified projects regarding the reality of underground cities and bases. These bases are said to be either significantly or completely separate from the surface population. Some of them are relatively close to the surface and use top-side air supplies for ventilation. Other facilities may be so deep within the Earth that they require their own independent life-support system.
There are said to be a number of distinguishable characteristics for the bases which use the Earth's atmosphere to sustain their air supply. The intakes to these ventilation systems are usually extremely large. Consequently, they need to be hidden by natural surroundings, whether by trees, vegetation, or mountains. This camouflage is used to conceal these vital openings from discovery or from interference from the surface world.
According to past testimonies, these openings are commonly monitored, not so much by armed guards, but by advanced surveillance systems—similar to some of the entrances to these underground facilities.
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Emery: It's not on a base. Right, with technology and satellites.
Corey: They're monitored.
Emery: And completely monitored, exactly.
So I think most of them, to answer your question, would be: you'd have to enter a really secured lab or a really secured corporation or a really secured military installation to access the underground.
Corey: So could you take us through what would be typical if you were to go through?
Emery: Right, absolutely. Depending on where your entry point is and depending on the type of base it is, some of the most common ones, like the one I was stationed at with Kirtland Air Force Base, was basically a fire tower that you would never even think would be the access point.
David: Mm-mm.
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Emery: And a fire tower, meaning it's a concrete base, not made out of metal. So I want you to think of a small 30' x 30' building, concrete, that goes up about six floors – straight up – but it's there as a fire observation point, which, of course, never is utilized for that.
And these areas, too, they don't have, like, parking lots in front of them or anything like that. You usually have to walk through many different posts.
But since this was already on the base, inside another base that's there . . . so you're going through two different types of security.
So first you have to get on the military base, number one. And then once you do that, there's another even more secure base on there with the fences and their own security teams. They're not military.
And these are private corporations that I spoke of that are running these things.
So one of the things I was speaking to Dave about one time was my dorm was so close to there I would actually ride my bicycle to this place after work. And I was allowed to put my bicycle near the area and then walk over. And this is just an area that people that on base worked there could walk to it.
So there's many different places to go in, but for us, since it's more convenient since we live on the base, for many scientists.
David: What would happen if somebody started to notice an unusual number of people going into a fire tower like if you were on the base and it wasn't your job?
Emery: Yeah.
David: What would happen then?
Emery: Well, that whole place is monitored, number one, and you're already on a base. And the base already knows there's something . . . You know, THEY already know there's something there.
They don't know the extent of it, though. The military doesn't always know the extent of how large these underground bases are, which you [Corey] could probably attest to.
Corey: Do they typically bring you through and scan your body? Do all these . . . I mean, what other types of security measures do they take?
Emery: Sure. So once you get there, like I did, there was actually a bike rack there that I'd put my bike up. And I'd walk right over, and there's just two doors.
You walk in, and just like you would walk into a hospital to check in somewhere, they take your driver's license and all that stuff.
So there's two security guards there, and you walk in.
And they either recognize you, or they don't recognize you. And you do have three different types of security things you have to do before you go in.
You have a card, number one, and it's very generic. It's nothing special. It doesn't have any . . .
Corey: Just a strip?
Emery: . . . holograms or anything in it. Right, it's just a strip . . . a magnetic strip, like you see on a credit card. So it's nothing special at all.
Then you have, of course, your palm print identification and your iris eye scan, like the old stuff you see in the movies – very similar to that.
So once you go through that and get through all that, then you take the elevator down.
Once you get to the bottom . . .
Corey: Where they weigh you while you're on the elevator going down.
Emery: That's right. The elevator is not a regular elevator. It looks like a regular elevator, but the elevator is actually scanning you to see if you have any type of, let's say, plutonium on you or anything that could be a threat.
So this elevator's doing a body scan on you as you're going down.
David: Wow!
Emery: Yeah. So you cannot smuggle something in, in your orifices. You could not come in there with a bomb or a grenade or a handgun or anything like that.
David: Is it also like an X-ray, MRI kind of thing, where it would . . .
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Emery: Yes.
David: Okay, I thought so.
Emery: It's a little different like that. It's not radioactive causing, where . . . of course, they wouldn't do that to you.
David: Right.
Emery: We do wear these special, of course, X-ray badges the whole time we're in there, because it monitors how much radiation you have.
Corey: You're exposed to.
Emery: Right. And it's not always just from the X-rays. It could be other projects in there that are using stuff that it is emanating at a safe level. But they have to monitor you the whole time.
Corey: Do they keep a running tally of any exposure you had to radiation . . .
Emery: Absolutely.
Corey: . . . accumulation?
Emery: Everyone's monitored for gas and radiation and specific light wavelengths, actually, that could cause damage to the body.
So those are the three things they are monitoring all the time.
David: Okay, so, Corey, since you've also had experience with underground bases, at this point, is there anything funny that jumps out at you – anything that he said that was familiar or unfamiliar?
Corey: Oh, yeah, absolutely familiar. And like he said, there's different types of bases.
Some of the bases are . . . you cannot access them from the ground whatsoever. You have to go through the tram system, the secret tram system underground.
Emery: Yeah.
Corey: And the only entrance and exit is through that tram system.
David: Right.
Corey: And often, they will be very deep, as I've said before. At a certain depth, you're no longer considered in United States territory.
David: Um.
Corey: And so you then have free rein.
Emery: Absolutely, yeah.
David: Have you seen . . .
Emery: And I was getting to that, because once you get down there, you have to take the tram.
And many of them have different types of maglev and lavatube devices to get you there.
Corey: I don't think we've had someone that could give a good description of the tram. I know they have short ones for people that you sit in and you're facing each other.
Emery: Right.
Corey: And then they have the larger ones. Can you give a description?
Emery: Yeah, sure. I spoke about this in the past. And one of the ones is kind of like a, as Dave and I call it, like a gondola.
So when you get down there, there's a chair you sit in, and it goes down a very, very long hallway.
And it just keeps going around and around and around. It's very slow, as fast as . . . a little bit faster than you'd see at the airport when you stand on those . . . the standing conveyor belts.
Corey: Right.
Emery: So just a little bit faster than that. And you're sitting down, or you can stand up. You don't have to sit down.
And that takes you to the actual main entrance of the underground base, and it could be as long as a quarter mile.
Now, they also have the actual tube system, which is a pod, and it holds up to four people.
And it's in the shape of a cylinder egg.
And you get in that one, and it has really nice chairs in it, actually, kind of like the reclining ones you would see on a dentist table, but really padded.
And you can actually wear a seat belt in these things, but you don't need to. You don't even know you're going because it's so fluid, and it gets up to such a high speed.
And I don't know how fast that is, but I heard some of these can go over 500 miles per hour.
Corey: Yeah, I was hearing over 700.
Emery: Yeah. So once you get there, whether you're taking the chair, the gondola, or you're taking these maglev tubes – the egg thing – once you get there, then you have to still go through another security checkpoint.
Corey: Because you could be in another country for all you know.
Emery: Right. Or another planet.
Corey: Right. Exactly. I was actually talking about that recently, about how . . . Recently, when I was brought up to the Lunar Operation Command, I was brought into a room for a briefing, and there was a window.
And I looked out the window, and I saw Mars.
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Emery: Ha, ha. Yes.
Corey: And I was told that a lot of times, people will take these trams. And much like I took a tram, and it ended up on another planet . . .
Emery: Yes.
Corey: . . . back when I was much younger, and you can't really tell.
Emery: Right.
Corey: You know.
Emery: You don't . . .
Corey: You can't really tell.
Emery: It's not like a . . . You don't go into some hyperjump, or you're even aware of it. It's that fluid when you do these kinds of portal jumps, I'll say. It's in seconds.
Corey: And they play games with the people when you get there. You'll see windows that make it look like you're on Earth somewhere or on Mars.
Emery: Right. Yeah, we talked about this. Absolutely.
Corey: And they were doing that on the Moon when I was in there, and they said, “Ah!”, and they flipped it over to a moonscape when they saw me staring at Mars kind of confused.
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We have heard a great deal about this tram system in that it is a major source of transportation between subterranean facilities. This is the system which has been discussed by multiple other whistleblowers. As they have stated, this tram system connects multiple underground bases and stretches across the entirety of the North American continent.
According to testimony, this system runs on a system that is similar to mag-lev technology. However, from the way it has been described, the magnetic component seems more similar to the advanced electro-gravitic technology which propels many spacecraft as they travel. There may be some similarity between these technologies. Either way, the level of advancement of subterranean technology likely stretches beyond that of basic mag-lev tech.
This tram system is proposed to not only have the ability to traverse an entire continent in record time, but to travel to other planets as well. It is this ability of apparent interplanetary travel which suggests that this technological capability is much higher than rudimentary mag-lev.
If we were to imagine this hollow subterranean tube beneath North America, we might envision that at certain points, different gateways or portals exist. These portals may remain inactive for most of the time. However, when the need arises for occupants of these pods to travel to other planets, these portals may activate. As the pod traverses the portal from the subterranean tube system on one planet to that of another planet, the occupants may be largely unaware of the change of location.
If we were to imagine this hollow subterranean tube beneath North America, we might envision that at certain points, different gateways or portals exist. These portals may remain inactive for most of the time. However, when the need arises for occupants of these pods to travel to other planets, these portals may activate. As the pod traverses the portal from the subterranean tube system on one planet to that of another planet, the occupants may be largely unaware of the change of location.
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David: Let me also just say for the record that Bob Dean, Pete Peterson, Jacob and Henry Deacon have all reported on this phenomenon of sub-shuttle systems where you get transported somewhere else, and you don't even realize it.
You're just riding in the thing, and you go somewhere else.
So this is a consistent element of insider testimony that I've heard.
Corey: Yeah, they could take a scientist, put him in one of the underground trams. They could end up at another facility, and it could be on the Moon.
David: Right.
Corey: And they could . . . And the facilities on the Moon . . . it looks just like Earth facilities.
David: Right.
Corey: And then walk them around. Let them see out the window – see the Grand Canyon or something – and the people totally believe that they're at a location on Earth.
Emery: It also helps with the psyche, if you're living underground for a very long time, to have these views and . . .
Corey: Yeah, trees and plants.
Emery: . . . to have the organic state material, with gardens inside these things.
Corey: Full spectrum lighting.
Emery: Full-spectrum lighting, and the things that we normally have here outside they try to replicate inside. And it seems to lower the stress levels of the scientists and the technicians that are working there.
David: Yeah, let's go with that, because one of the things that Pete Peterson reported to me was this idea that you might have a very large dome underground in which there is a city, with buildings and roads and trees.
Emery: Right.
David: And it really . . . And they even have the dome lit so it looks like the sky.
Emery: Yeah, the dome is really cool.
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Corey: And they do starlight. They do stars at night.
Emery: They do. And you have your own 24-hour, like you said – the day and night situations. They can make it look like a hurricane's coming, too, with clouds and all sorts of amazing sci-fi effects that are very realistic, as far as the lighting goes, and the way it makes you feel like you're looking into infinity.
Corey: I'm curious. Were any of these bases that you went to . . . were they in national parks?
Emery: Yes. Yeah.
Corey: Interesting. We've heard tale, and you and I have seen doors that will just open up out of the side of a mountain.
Emery: Right.
Corey: And they can completely . . . you could never tell that there is anything there. You could go there with a . . . do sonic tests. You would never know that there's a door there.
Emery: You can't even find it with a metal detector.
Corey: Right.
Emery: And this is like a giant rock, like you just said, will open up. And it's completely sealed and pressurized, out of the side of a mountain.
And we were talking about this earlier, Corey. Even in the desert, . . . Like, I always remember watching the desert open up, like you said, which you can explain.
Corey: Right. Like a zipper.
Emery: Like a zipper.
Corey: The ground.
Emery: And then the sand starts falling in. And I'm always like, man, who's cleaning up all that sand?
Corey: Right.
Emery: But they have a special thing that . . .
Corey: Yeah, it drains sort of those . . .
Emery: Just collects it right out and shoots it back out over the . . . once the door shuts, shoots it back on top of that.
Another type of base that I don't get into too much, you know, up in the North Pole in the polar ice caps – there's bases in polar ice caps . . .
Corey: Mh-hm.
Emery: And they are magnificently beautiful, number one. And they somehow have their own atmosphere in there, . . .
Corey: Yeah.
Emery: . . . with perfect running water and their own, I'll say, their own electricity they make using the Earth, because they're already very, very deep.
Corey: Is that like geothermal?
Emery: Yes.
Corey: Right.
Emery: Yep.
Corey: Are these . . . And some of them also use the thorium-type reactors.
Emery: THORIUM – absolutely.
Corey: Yeah, so . . .
David: I've heard a lot about thorium.
Emery: That's a big one. Thorium's amazing, yeah.
David: It's basically a non-radioactive fusion system.
Emery: Right.
Corey: Well, what's interesting is that in a lot of my presentations I've been showing footage from Project Iceworm.
It was a project by the Army Corps of Engineers in I think it was the late '50s, early '60s, in Greenland. They went in, and they set up one of these bases.
And basically, the same type of building was done down in Antarctica as well. And planes would come and land and provide them the supplies.
But this is also how they've built a lot of off-world bases . . .
Emery: Right.
Corey: . . . this same method. But Project Iceworm was very interesting because later on, the United States tried to smuggle some nuclear weapons there, and the plane crashed.
And everyone found out about this huge base that was secretly built.
David: Just so you guys are aware of this, one of the things that Pete Peterson told me was that the “World Book Encyclopedia” in 1953, I think was the year, that the military-industrial complex sent people all over libraries to rip out this one page because it had something in there talking about how thorium could be a reaction that would produce almost no radiation.
And he said that if we started to use this, that we would have this incredible breakthrough in technology.
So what do you guys know about thorium as it relates to our discussion?
Corey: Well, I know that in the programs, the craft, research vessel, I was assigned to, originally it was nuclear. And then they replaced it with thorium based [power].
And then they replaced it with some sort of an electromagnetic engine that had these long tubes that they would put something in that they called “minnow baskets” that would spin.
And if you move it up and down, you get a little bit of play in the electromagnetics.
Emery: Right.
Corey: And I think it's some sort of electromagnetic friction that's going around. And these leads are picking up the energy and shooting it wirelessly through the tubes, which then go directly to these huge capacitors.
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Emery: Right. Yeah, a lot of capacitors are used in these bases to hold the energy.
I'm not an expert at thorium, but I was recently on a project where a private organization – a private corporation – hired me to . . . They sent out people all over the United States – a scientific team – to find the LARGEST deposit of thorium here in the United States.
And I know exactly where that's at. And that is also in New Mexico. I'm not going to tell you the city it's located near, but I'll tell you it's in New Mexico.
And there's an unlimited amount of thorium there that could power all the planets, and all the bases, and, of course, us right here indefinitely – INDEFINITELY - I mean with the amount of energy we already currently use.
David: So why do you think, Emery, there would be a base in a national park? What would be the advantage to that?
Emery: Oh, the advantage of that is, number one, it's completely monitored all the time. You always have park rangers around.
So it's like you have your own little civilian operatives out there.
And, of course, they're just cluttered with satellites and stuff that are watching them – watching the area, I mean.
So these areas also sometimes have a great usage to them because they're near maybe an underground thermal or something.
Corey: Right.
Emery: And they're harvesting this energy. Or maybe it has a huge crystalline formation under some of these parks and stuff.
So the parks, even in early days, were actually picked out to hide military bases.
Corey: Yeah, what's interesting is Clifford Mahooty, when we had him here talking, said that reservations – Indian reservations – and these bases and national parks have the same classification with the government.
Emery: Yes. And that's what I'm saying, because it's limited traffic, or it's controlled traffic.
Even on the reservations, like, . . . You're not even allowed to go on a reservation, you understand, unless you have special passes and whatnot with the chiefs.
And what happens is that's the perfect ideal place that's never going to have a lot of traffic or a lot of investigation, because we're using an area that we already gave to the American Indians.
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Note:
The topic of the remote locations of these DUMBs was reminiscent of another subject which has been discussed on past episodes of Cosmic Disclosure. The point about various entrances to these bases being located on Indian reservations and national parks was particularly interesting, in my view. This subject may remind us of one phenomenon which involved the mysterious disappearances of hundreds of people in national parks and other remote locations around the U.S.
These disappearances usually involved children and young women. There was one situation that was somewhat well-known in which a family lost their teenage daughter while on a hiking trip.On this hiking/riding expedition in a national park, the young woman—in her teens—got off of her horse, walked a short distance while remaining in view of her family and others in the party. Then suddenly, she was gone with no explanation as to where she may have gone. She simply vanished without a trace and was not seen again.
According to past episodes, it is possible for covert organizations to actually abduct individuals—possibly through a process of dematerialization—into these bases. It is unknown as to what happens to these individuals, but if any of them do reappear, it is usually weeks to months later, and they are not typically alive upon return.
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According to testimony, unless an individual is severely mentally disabled in some way, or unable to speak due to disability, they are either killed or never returned at all. This tendency for disappearances in remote areas in Western Canada and Alaska are said to be well-known by native North Americans who live in these areas. In fact, many of these people know that it is not safe to wander alone in the wilderness not simply due to the risk of attack by wild animals or exposure to the elements, but due to the risk that a person may disappear and never be heard from again.
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Corey: Right. It was interesting. I read a report that a lot of the groups of park rangers were actually intelligence.
They were former military and intelligence, because in a lot of these national parks where people “go missing”, they end up finding the missing people.
And sometimes they had been worked on by non-terrestrials, and they needed to keep it quiet, . . .
Emery: Sure.
Corey: . . . so they had the park rangers smooth everything over.
Emery: Yeah, I can attest and agree to that 100%, that they're using a show of force, or let's just say a security detail, that is not what you would think of someone just graduating college and taking up a job.
These people are 20-year-plus veterans either in the projects or in the military, as you said. And they're very overqualified, but they get paid really well.
David: So one thing I'd like to follow up on, Emery, is you mentioned bases under the ice.
Emery: Yeah.
David: And I would assume this also would include bases in the ocean.
Emery: Yes.
David: There's this very strange movie that came out 2009 called “G.I. Joe”, which is military, but all the stuff that we're talking about is in that movie all over the place.
What do you feel about the movie “G.I. Joe”? And did you have any . . .Emery: I do recall seeing that. I don't remember it too well, but I do recall seeing it and connecting the dots, we'll say.
And I think there was a lot to it at the time. I remember watching it and saying, “Wow! Here they are just coming blatantly out.”
David: Because it's so . . .
Emery: . . . and showing . . .
David: They're doing these beautiful visuals in the movie with computer animation.
Corey: Oh, yeah, well, especially the second one when they did the Rods from God attacks . . .
David: Oh, that was crazy.
Corey: . . . on the Earth when that's exactly what we're looking at in the North Korea thing.
Emery: Right. Right. Interesting. I didn't see the second one.
David: They're telephone-pole-sized pieces of tungsten that you can drop onto the Earth, and just gravity causes a very, very severe explosion that can devastate a huge amount of space.
Emery: Oh, yes. Yeah.
David: And he had talked about that. And I only watched the second “G.I. Joe” film recently, and I couldn't believe that it was in there.
Emery: Wow! Yeah, that's pretty amazing for them to blatantly come out and expose that classified information, but we do start to see that now all the time with the movies are giving tidbits.
There's the Alliance and other white hats that get to throw a couple of messages in there for those who are paying attention . . .
David: Right.
Emery: . . . and talk about it. So I think it's a great thing.
David: So another thing I'd want to bring up now is: when I spoke to Bob Dean, retired Major Bob Dean, he actually told me a lot more than he ever said publicly with Project Camelot or anyone else about what he really had been involved in.
It's very similar to what Corey's done.
And one of the things he talked about was an island in the South Pacific that looks like an island if you fly over it, but if you get really close, half of the island is some kind of hologram, and it's camouflaged.
And you can go through that hologram, and then you find out there's a whole base there . . .
Emery: Yeah.
David: . . . that you can't see from the sky. Are you familiar with anything like that?
Emery: There's lots of that.
Corey: Yeah, lots of that technology – the masking technology with holograms.
Emery: Lots of it.
Corey: They've even developed holograms to a point to where they have mass.
Emery: Right.
Corey: Or they call them “hard light”, to where they can . . .
Emery: You can cast a shadow.
Corey: Yeah, you can do a hologram, and you can walk up and “tink, tink, tink,” like a piece of glass.
Or even they can make it even thicker in depth.
David: Wow!
Emery: Yeah, I totally can attest to that as well, and I was part of . . . not part of that, but there were compartmentalized projects near me during that that were working on satellites that could do that, or they were putting that technology in satellites in the early '90s, and I think it was probably before that.
Corey: Yeah. What's crazy is they'll have a hard light panel. They remove the source of the power or electricity, and it stays.
Emery: Right.
Corey: I mean, it's incredible.
Emery: Yeah, they're using all sorts of cool technology. That's why I always say, you know, if I did see something, a craft or whatnot, an ET, it's hard for me to say, “Oh, that's real. or it's not real”, unless I actually was right in front of it and analyzing it, because they can make you really believe you saw a plane crash into a building.
Corey: Mm-hm.
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Emery: They can make you really believe that's really something there. And you can get up to it, like Corey said, and it's palpable.
David: Really?
Emery: It is actually palpable. And the ones I've seen were not as palpable as yours were. You're like . . . Mine was just for a little bit, and then you could just easily go through it.
Corey: Right.
Emery: But that's just an amazing technology to begin with, because then you can basically make any type of threat – fake threat – or use it for horrible situations where you're trying to . . .
Corey: They're using it for building.
Emery: Yeah.
David: Would they create areas where, like, NOAA [National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration] would have a no-fly zone? So, like, you couldn't fly a passenger plane or an airliner over these areas?
Emery: Oh, that's right now. Right now they have it everywhere. There are certain places you can't . . . no-fly zones.
And that's a great way to also investigate when you're trying to find places.
David: Ha, ha.
Emery: And you're like, “Well, why is it way over here? This is a no-fly zone.”
David: But, like, if you have a little Cessna, what would happen if you tried to go towards one of these zones, let's say.
Emery: You immediately would be escorted out by some F-16s . . .
Corey: Yes.
Emery: . . . or F-15s or whatnot.
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Note:
When we consider the proposition that a city can be constructed and sustained completely independent from surface society, several questions may come to mind. The first of these might be, “How is it possible to sustain a self-contained micro-biosphere underground?”
We have heard Corey's testimony in the past that when he was an operative in these programs, he ate food that was synthesized by printers or what we might refer to as food replicators. This technology was said to involve the creation of food from a type of natural oil. From this oil, the printer technology could create a variety of foods which Goode claimed tasted fairly good under the right conditions.
We might consider a technology which has the ability to synthesize a variety of chemical compounds from basic molecular structures. If this is the case, we might imagine this technology being able to produce much more than just food.
We might consider a technology which has the ability to synthesize a variety of chemical compounds from basic molecular structures. If this is the case, we might imagine this technology being able to produce much more than just food.
If these food replicators do exist and if they are as advanced as Corey Goode has claimed in the past, the possibility exists that to some extent, this technology could be used to oxygenate air in an enclosed space. Though to my recollection, we have not yet heard of such a possibility from Corey or other whistleblowers. We might consider the fact that it has been some time since Goode has been an internal member of the programs. It may also be that the SSP personnel whom Corey reports speaking with over time have not necessarily revealed every possibility to him, though I don't imagine that self-sustaining life-support systems would be a very sensitive topic for the SSP to reveal.
Of course, a more simple solution for sustaining a continuous air supply would be to ensure a constant source of water and full-spectrum light, and then to plant a variety of vegetation in the area you plan to oxygenate.
We might keep in mind that a continuous air supply is only one of countless necessities an isolated civilization would need in order to support and sustain life. We will cover a few more of these necessities in a moment.
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David: Okay, it seems pretty strange that they could have this hard-light technology or a hologram cloaking something.
Somebody at some point is going to find it. Somebody's going to be sailing in a little skiff . . .
Emery: They have.
David: . . . on the ocean or something. So what would happen in those situations?
Emery: They have, and they were terminated.
David: Really?
Emery: Missing at sea. Or even in military operations, sometimes THEY accidentally stumble.
Corey: Training operation.
Emery: Right, and they're not supposed to be there, but they are. And they are usually terminated.
Corey: “Dead in a training operation” or something.
Emery: Yeah, they were, like you just said, . . . People that work at these bases, too, their families don't know that they're going to a base to work for three months.
They're just saying, “I can't contact you for three months because I'm going on a mission.”
So when they do die, and they tell the family, “Oh, they died in action or on a training mission”, it's completely false. It's completely fake.
And they'll never know, because the best people to hire are military people that are active duty, because they're very expendable.
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David: What other methods do they have to protect the base from people showing up so that they don't actually have to kill people? What are some of the other methods?
Because I would hope they don't always do fatalities.
Corey: You know, they'll do things like put out signs stating that there's radiation, that this was a testing zone for nuclear weapons and try to deter you that way.
Emery: Well, they have many things in place to deter you from going there, but sometimes it just happens.
You know, you can't have a sign every 50 feet and when you're 100 nautical miles out with this island and stuff.
But there are boats that are always . . . and aircraft that are always patrolling those areas.
And the satellites that are assigned to these bases, they're always there. And a fleet can't even get in there without them knowing that there's something in the airspace.
David: Wow!
Emery: You could not fly under radar to these places. You WILL be caught. You WILL be found.
David: Do you think there are certain cases where people would be brought into the base and become employees or maybe unwillingly become employees instead of just being shot?
Emery: I'm not aware of that.
Corey: I am, unfortunately.
Emery: Yeah?
Corey: Yeah. There have been, for the biometric testing and stuff, they'll take people.
Emery: Oh, for testing. Right.
Corey: Yeah.
Emery: Yeah, I've seen them get kidnapped.
David: Hm.
Emery: And people were there against their will, but not to be working for someone. I've never seen that. But, absolutely, what Corey just said is unfortunately true.
Corey: Did you ever hear of any security measures to protect against “psychic spying” or remote viewing?
Emery: Absolutely. All the bases have dedicated remote viewers on board.
And don't forget, remote viewers don't have to be on the base.
Corey: Right.
Emery: They could be far away and still protecting the bases.
And you get two good remote viewers – and that's one of my specialties that I actually get paid for - . . . is you have a remote viewer, let's say, that's 90% effective.
And then you get another remote viewer that's, like, 90% effective. And they both come up with the exact same thing.
So you only need a few of those guys on board to check out surveillance.
Now, they do have people that are advanced remote viewers that are using . . .
Corey: Remote influencers.
Emery: Right. Say it again.
Corey: Remote influencers.
Emery: Right, remote influencers that also use consciousness-assisted technology and electronics that they hook up to.
Corey: Have you seen some of the . . .
Emery: Yes.
Corey: There's either a pole or a plate that they put their palms on.
Emery: Two gold plates or . . .
Corey: Well, one is copper, and one looks like it's a stainless looking steel. And it's hooked up to wires. And they'll sit there, and it enhances their ability.
The remote viewers that try to view military bases, they'll begin to see a view of the base, and then all of a sudden, their thoughts are scattered.
And what they were being called in the smart-glass pads, which is an awkward way to label them, but they called them, “Those that Scatter”, because they were scattering the thoughts of anyone coming in.
And they were also sending energetic feedback through the connection and giving people what they called “ethereal headaches”, which for days you have a huge headache. And I'm sure you know what that's . . .
Emery: Oh, yes.
Corey: . . . what those are.
David: All right. Well, that's very amazing stuff, and that's all the time we have in this episode with Emery Smith, Corey Goode and myself. We'll see you next time. Thanks for watching.
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By observation, both Emery and Corey appear to be genuine people—both having their own strengths with regard to testimonial points. Corey seems to have had the working knowledge within the off-planet operations of Solar Warden as well as knowledge about how the other factions of the SSP operate. His knowledge is based upon his extensive exposure to smart glass pad information as well as actual time in the field, according to his testimony.
Emery's working knowledge hinges on the more terrestrial side of classified operations. His testimony offers what is probably some of the most detailed knowledge of underground bases the truth community has heard thus far. Not only this, but Emery's testimony offers clear medical expertise which has not yet been offered by many past whistleblowers. These qualities of intel combined with the variety of information and subject matter seem to be particularly appealing to the UFO and truther audience.
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The testimonies of Corey Goode have been extremely unique in that they offer a first glimpse into a world which not many of us have been able to experience. These experiences ranged from riding in highly advanced spacecraft to visiting other planets, bases, and locations which the rest of us have only dreamed of doing. Corey also claims to have interacted with multiple ET species during some key meetings between factions of the SSP, Earth-based factions, and a number of different ET groups.
Of course, Corey's testimony has the unique element of claims of interactions with one particularly extra-dimensional race. These reported interactions were the source of much intrigue, excitement, and controversy in some cases. However, these testimonies did reveal quite a bit about the possibilities of ET interaction as well as the possible reaction of humanity, in the instance we are given information we are not yet ready to process.
Though both of these gentlemen differ in their reported experiences, their information interrelates in remarkable ways. Corey's testimonies have introduced us to some rather fantastic possibilities of what we might experience if we leave the planet's surface. Emery's accounts reveal a more down-to-Earth aspect of classified projects as well as key components which we can verify to some degree—such as U.S. patents, medical developments, and inventions of different types.
Naturally, if a person works in a classified project that is so deeply secretive, multiple measures will be taken to erase all evidence of that project. According to testimony, these programs take care to destroy all of the proof and records that would otherwise give audiences the substance of proof which audience members have demanded. Consequently, many people will be frustrated at their lack of ability to see physical proof of absolutely everything which either of these veterans claims to be true.
When it comes down to it, our capacity to imagine the possibilities suggested within these testimonies depends solely upon the flexibility of our minds. It is not that these or any other testimonies deserve absolute dedication of belief, but simply that any information we come across deserves a fair chance for consideration and examination into the true possibilities behind it.
We can expect greater instances of revelation from these and other remarkable whistleblowers in the future, I'm sure.
When it comes down to it, our capacity to imagine the possibilities suggested within these testimonies depends solely upon the flexibility of our minds. It is not that these or any other testimonies deserve absolute dedication of belief, but simply that any information we come across deserves a fair chance for consideration and examination into the true possibilities behind it.
We can expect greater instances of revelation from these and other remarkable whistleblowers in the future, I'm sure.
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